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boat,trailer,motor no titles $300 obo - $300 (east
side)
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Date: 2010-01-20, 8:46AM CST
Reply to: sale-3tcmg-#########@craigslist.org
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1975 sunedance boat and a 80hp mercury motor
and trailer the motor does work been sitting 10
months
text me at 210-###-### to leave an offer i will get
back to the best offer or call for info ask for XXXXX
14 foot boat - $100 (New Braunfels)
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Date: 2010-01-12, 10:29AM CST
Reply to: see below
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14 foot green fiberglass fishing boat. This is just
the hull. There are no seats or motor. Very heavy,
and very strong with plenty of life waiting to be
floated on. I do not know where the title is, but
the ID numbers are still on the boat to
replace it. It does not come with a trailer, so have
on ready when you come to pick it up. I can deliver
it to you for an additional cost depending on how
far away from me you are. Local would be no
problem. Call me, xxxxxx, at 830-###-#### for
more info or to claim this excellent deal. Asking
$100 FIRM.
side)
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Date: 2010-01-20, 8:46AM CST
Reply to: sale-3tcmg-#########@craigslist.org
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1975 sunedance boat and a 80hp mercury motor
and trailer the motor does work been sitting 10
months
text me at 210-###-### to leave an offer i will get
back to the best offer or call for info ask for XXXXX
14 foot boat - $100 (New Braunfels)
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Date: 2010-01-12, 10:29AM CST
Reply to: see below
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14 foot green fiberglass fishing boat. This is just
the hull. There are no seats or motor. Very heavy,
and very strong with plenty of life waiting to be
floated on. I do not know where the title is, but
the ID numbers are still on the boat to
replace it. It does not come with a trailer, so have
on ready when you come to pick it up. I can deliver
it to you for an additional cost depending on how
far away from me you are. Local would be no
problem. Call me, xxxxxx, at 830-###-#### for
more info or to claim this excellent deal. Asking
$100 FIRM.
At best, these may be cases of an owner having
misplaced the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
(TPWD) issued titles. Frequently, a seller will tell you
how easy it is to replace a missing title. My
question to you is, if it is so easy, why hasn’t
the seller replaced the title before offering the
boat for sale?
If you are in the market to buy a used
boat, here is what you need to know.
Boats, when on Texas public water are required to
have current Texas registration, including when
docked, moored, or stored.
registration:
If the boat is required to have current Texas
registration then the seller MUST have a title in the
seller’s name to convey title to you. If the seller
does not have a title, then in the eyes of the
state, the seller is not the owner.
Effective January 1, 1994, all motorboats and all
outboard motors must be titled. Also sailboats
14 feet and over in length must be titled.
In a private sale, whenever possible, both the seller
and buyer should go to the nearest participating
office to transfer the boat title and registration and
outboard motor title into the name of the purchaser.
Seller – by accompanying the buyer to the local
office you are assured that the record is transferred
out of your name and future liability for the vessel
eliminated. The vessel and outboard motor title will
remain in your name until a new title is applied for
and processed by the local office or through the mail.
Purchaser – you can avoid unwanted surprises
about your purchase by having the seller
accompany you to the local office. If there are any
problems with the title, they can be resolved by the
buyer [sic] at that time.
**Link to TPWD**
The seller must:
Complete the tax affidavit portion of the Vessel
Application form PWD 143 (PDF 509.5 KB) and/or
Outboard Motor Application form PWD 144 (PDF
390 KB), sign and date each form; and
If the boat or outboard motor is required to be
titled, the seller must provide one of the
following in their name:
of the signed tax affidavit portion on the PWD
143 (PDF 509.5 KB) and/or PWD 144 (PDF 390
KB), list the price of the trailer separately from the
price of the boat and outboard motor. A valid bill of
sale must contain the date of sale, sales price
(excluding trailer), description of the boat and
outboard motor (make, year, and TX or serial
number), purchaser(s) name and seller(s)
signature(s). [Note a bill of sale only can
replace the PWD 143 form. A bill of sale CAN
NOT replace the title.]
The purchaser must:
Complete the rest of the application in the new
owner's name, sign and date; and
If coming from out of state or not previously titled,
verify the serial number (HIN/MIN) by completing
form PWD 504 (PDF 241.8 KB) (pencil tracing of the
boat hull/identification AND/OR motor
identification/serial number); and
Submit application(s), assigned title(s), supporting
documents, required fees and tax within 20 working
days to Texas Parks and Wildlife Headquarters in
Austin, a Texas Parks and Wildlife Law Enforcement
field office or a participating County Tax Assessor-
Collector office.
Applications for transfer of title and ownership must
be filed not later than 20 working days from date of
purchase, or tax penalties and interest will be
applied.
**Link to TPWD**
Summary:
A title printed in the seller's name is required
to transfer ownership of a previously owned
vessel and/or outboard motor titled in Texas. Check
the Certificate of Number card. If there is a title on
the boat, it will be designated "TITLED" on the card.
The following forms may be used to replace a lost or
destroyed Texas title.
front and the back of the title. Old titles
required the seller to sign in the presence of a
notary, but this is no longer true.
In addition, to the seller(s) signing the title
over to you, the seller must also sign a PWD-
143 form.
There are procedures for assuming ownership
and gaining title of boats with cloudy or
missing titles, but it can be costly, time
consuming, and fruitless. Contact TPWD for
this situation. **Link to TPWD**
Remember, when a seller has a boat on his
property and he doesn’t have title to the boat,
HE HAS A PROBLEM. If you give the seller
money and he gives you a boat without a title
and a PWD-143 form, YOU THEN HAVE A
PROBLEM.
misplaced the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
(TPWD) issued titles. Frequently, a seller will tell you
how easy it is to replace a missing title. My
question to you is, if it is so easy, why hasn’t
the seller replaced the title before offering the
boat for sale?
If you are in the market to buy a used
boat, here is what you need to know.
Boats, when on Texas public water are required to
have current Texas registration, including when
docked, moored, or stored.
- All motorized boats, regardless of length
- All sailboats 14 feet in length or longer or any
sailboat with an auxiliary engine(s); and - USCG Documented vessels
registration:
- All (non-motorized) canoes,
- kayaks,
- punts,
- rowboats, or
- rubber rafts (regardless of length) when
paddled, poled, or oared - and sailboats under 14 feet in length when
windblown
If the boat is required to have current Texas
registration then the seller MUST have a title in the
seller’s name to convey title to you. If the seller
does not have a title, then in the eyes of the
state, the seller is not the owner.
Effective January 1, 1994, all motorboats and all
outboard motors must be titled. Also sailboats
14 feet and over in length must be titled.
- All motorized boats, regardless of length;
- All sailboats 14 feet in length or longer or any
sailboat with an auxiliary engine(s); and - All internal combustion (gasoline/diesel
powered) outboard motors must be titled.
In a private sale, whenever possible, both the seller
and buyer should go to the nearest participating
office to transfer the boat title and registration and
outboard motor title into the name of the purchaser.
Seller – by accompanying the buyer to the local
office you are assured that the record is transferred
out of your name and future liability for the vessel
eliminated. The vessel and outboard motor title will
remain in your name until a new title is applied for
and processed by the local office or through the mail.
Purchaser – you can avoid unwanted surprises
about your purchase by having the seller
accompany you to the local office. If there are any
problems with the title, they can be resolved by the
buyer [sic] at that time.
**Link to TPWD**
The seller must:
Complete the tax affidavit portion of the Vessel
Application form PWD 143 (PDF 509.5 KB) and/or
Outboard Motor Application form PWD 144 (PDF
390 KB), sign and date each form; and
If the boat or outboard motor is required to be
titled, the seller must provide one of the
following in their name:
- MSO (if brand new); or
- Texas title; or
- Out of state title/registration (which ever is
required by the previous state) - On the back of the MSO, title or out of state
title/registration, the seller must print the name
of the purchaser, sign, and date.
of the signed tax affidavit portion on the PWD
143 (PDF 509.5 KB) and/or PWD 144 (PDF 390
KB), list the price of the trailer separately from the
price of the boat and outboard motor. A valid bill of
sale must contain the date of sale, sales price
(excluding trailer), description of the boat and
outboard motor (make, year, and TX or serial
number), purchaser(s) name and seller(s)
signature(s). [Note a bill of sale only can
replace the PWD 143 form. A bill of sale CAN
NOT replace the title.]
The purchaser must:
Complete the rest of the application in the new
owner's name, sign and date; and
If coming from out of state or not previously titled,
verify the serial number (HIN/MIN) by completing
form PWD 504 (PDF 241.8 KB) (pencil tracing of the
boat hull/identification AND/OR motor
identification/serial number); and
Submit application(s), assigned title(s), supporting
documents, required fees and tax within 20 working
days to Texas Parks and Wildlife Headquarters in
Austin, a Texas Parks and Wildlife Law Enforcement
field office or a participating County Tax Assessor-
Collector office.
Applications for transfer of title and ownership must
be filed not later than 20 working days from date of
purchase, or tax penalties and interest will be
applied.
**Link to TPWD**
Summary:
A title printed in the seller's name is required
to transfer ownership of a previously owned
vessel and/or outboard motor titled in Texas. Check
the Certificate of Number card. If there is a title on
the boat, it will be designated "TITLED" on the card.
The following forms may be used to replace a lost or
destroyed Texas title.
- To replace a lost or destroyed Texas title for a
vessel/boat, submit form PWD 143M (PDF
405.1 KB). - To replace a lost or destroyed Texas title for
an outboard motor, submit form PWD 144M
(PDF 335.8 KB). - The owner of record must apply if there is no
lien. If there is a lien on our [TPWD] record
and the lien has not been paid, the lien holder
must apply. If there is a lien on our [TPWD]
record and the lien has been paid, the owner
of record may apply for a replacement title
with the lien released by submitting form PWD
403 (PDF 298.2 KB), and one of the following: - Section N – Release a Lien on the form PWD
403 (PDF 298.2 KB) completed by the lien
holder and notarized; or - Separate notarized Release of Lien provided
by the lien holder.
front and the back of the title. Old titles
required the seller to sign in the presence of a
notary, but this is no longer true.
In addition, to the seller(s) signing the title
over to you, the seller must also sign a PWD-
143 form.
There are procedures for assuming ownership
and gaining title of boats with cloudy or
missing titles, but it can be costly, time
consuming, and fruitless. Contact TPWD for
this situation. **Link to TPWD**
Remember, when a seller has a boat on his
property and he doesn’t have title to the boat,
HE HAS A PROBLEM. If you give the seller
money and he gives you a boat without a title
and a PWD-143 form, YOU THEN HAVE A
PROBLEM.
Short list of steps to buy a
used boat follow. Look
below the sample ads for
detailed information.
When you go look at the boat, take a PWD –
143 form with you. If it has an outboard motor,
also take a PWD – 144 form with you.
Helpful links:
PWD – 143 form to buy or sell a boat
PWD – 144 form to buy or sell an outboard
motor
PWD-143M form to order a replacement for
lost title for a boat.
PWD-144M form to order a replacement for a
lost title for an outboard motor.
Owner of record of a boat or outboard motor
Source of all information: Texas Parks and
Wildlife Department, 2010, http://www.tpwd.
state.tx.us/
Links to good sites for used
boats:
Sailboats for Sale
Sailing Texas– International, not just Texas
Sailboat Listings– extensive national database
Personal Water Craft
PWC Texas - PWC
Power Boats for Sale
PWC Texas – Power Boats
General Boat for Sale Sites
Craigs List Austin
Craigs List Beaumont
Craigs List Brownsville
Craigs List College Station
Craigs List Corpus Christi
Craigs List Dallas - Ft Worth
Craigs List Galveston
Craigs List Houston
Craigs List Killeen/ Ft Hood
Craigs List San Antonio
Craigs List San Marcos
Craigs List Temple/Belton
Craigs List Victoria
Craigs List Waco
used boat follow. Look
below the sample ads for
detailed information.
When you go look at the boat, take a PWD –
143 form with you. If it has an outboard motor,
also take a PWD – 144 form with you.
- Have the seller show you the title to the
boat and if the boat has an outboard
motor, its title, too. - Match the registration number and the
hull number with the numbers on the
boat. The registration number will be on
both sides of the bow and will look like
this “TX 1234 CW”. The hull number will
be on the outside right side of the
transom if the boat was manufactured
after 1972. Boat manufactured before
1973 were not required to have hull
numbers. - If the owner does not have a title to show
you, DON’T GIVE HIM ANY MONEY,
YET.
- Give the owner a PWD-143M form
to send to TPWD to get a replacement
for lost boat title. If the owner does not
have a title to the outboard motor, give
the owner a PWD-144M form.
Remember, without a valid title,
ownership cannot easily or inexpensively
be transferred. - Copy the registration number or
hull number onto a piece of paper. If the
hull number is difficult to read, lay the
paper on the hull number and rub your
pencil across it to get a rubbing image. - Go to the TPWD website link to find
out who is the owner of record.
- If the name of your seller matches with
the official record, then all you have to
do is wait for the seller to obtain a valid
copy of the title to complete the
purchase. - If the name of your seller doesn’t match
with the official record, start searching
the classifieds for another boat. Let the
current possessor of the boat solve his
problem.
Helpful links:
PWD – 143 form to buy or sell a boat
PWD – 144 form to buy or sell an outboard
motor
PWD-143M form to order a replacement for
lost title for a boat.
PWD-144M form to order a replacement for a
lost title for an outboard motor.
Owner of record of a boat or outboard motor
Source of all information: Texas Parks and
Wildlife Department, 2010, http://www.tpwd.
state.tx.us/
Links to good sites for used
boats:
Sailboats for Sale
Sailing Texas– International, not just Texas
Sailboat Listings– extensive national database
Personal Water Craft
PWC Texas - PWC
Power Boats for Sale
PWC Texas – Power Boats
General Boat for Sale Sites
Craigs List Austin
Craigs List Beaumont
Craigs List Brownsville
Craigs List College Station
Craigs List Corpus Christi
Craigs List Dallas - Ft Worth
Craigs List Galveston
Craigs List Houston
Craigs List Killeen/ Ft Hood
Craigs List San Antonio
Craigs List San Marcos
Craigs List Temple/Belton
Craigs List Victoria
Craigs List Waco
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